Britney Spears Gives Birth to Second Baby

[Lindsay]

http://www.knx1070.com/pages/82430.php?contentType=4&contentId=204715\

Britney gave birth yesterday by planned C/S. Her kids are exactly a year apart. Talk about Irish Twins!

[LMS]

hey wait... i thought sean p's birthday is tomorrow and she was scheduled for c-sec tomorrow but went into labor or her own yesterday?

[Lindsay]

O RLY? I thought it seemed odd they'd schedule a C/S for 2am. Well, I do know she had planned on having a second elective C/S, that I know for sure.

[KaisaG]

I read how she was planning to have a scheduled C/S in People mag the other day while I was pumping at work. (Honestly I think that how movie stars do that is total crap because I read once how they do it when they are around eight months to ensure that they don't get any stretch marks.)

[Lindsay]

They must wait until at least term, I'd think, otherwise they'd be having preemies and we're always seeing photos of stars with their babies just days after birth. Besides, for stretch markes, they can afford to have them removed via laser or tummy tuck. Besides, seems to me that C/S leaves a pretty nasty scar!

I can't imagine OPTING for major surgery over labor. It just boggles the mind. I admit I am not Ms. Natural Birth Warrior (I had pain meds during both my labors and my second was an elective induction at 40w6d), but I just can't imagine going in for a C/S on PURPOSE. :O It's like my greatest fear!

[LMS]

I think i'd only have an elective c if there was a medical reason for it (can't think of any off hand, but you know what i mean)....
A lot of celebrities plan c-sections b/c their plastic surgeons are readily available if they say "I'm having surgery on tuesday at 2pm" then they can be "cleaned up" immediatly following the c. they can have their tummy tuck, etc, and recover from it at the same time as the birth so it doesn't look abnormal for them to be walking funny, dressing covering more skin, etc, or even be out of the public eye. Whereas if britney had her baby, was at home for (say) 3 weeks recovering from the c-section, then was out and about with the baby for a month, then went back home for anohter month to recover from the tummy tuck, it would be noticed by the paparazzi more, you know?

[KaisaG]

Okay- From what I read she did not go into natural labor... Her C/S was scheduled... Maybe it was for 2am to limit the amount of press hanging around outside the hospital??? Anyway it looks like she had another boy... I guess she was due on the 14th. Oh, and "preemie" doesn't always mean tiny.... By gestational age, my son was premature and he was 7lbs 14ozs. :boy

[Lindsay]

It's true not all preemies are small however, many preemies ARE just that --premature. Often times (of course not ALL the time, but often) there are problems with suck, or developmental delays, or a higher succeptiblility to illness, ect ect ect. I've heard of even "older" preemies needing the NICU for one reason or another --and if a star were having a preemie at 8 months (32 to 35 weeks) it's HIGHLY unlikely they'd go home right away , tho possible.

I wouldn't consider a medically necessacary C/S to be elective, I'd consider it to be, uh, medically necessacary. As far as I know there was no reason for Britney's C/S other than the fact that she didn't want to go into labor. She's been quoted several times saying that she had no desire to labor b/c her mother told her how painful and awful it is. :O

[LMS]

:headscratch mine wasn't painful or awful... maybe she shoulda given it a chance....

[daisydoc]

ya... not down with that whole thing of being told it's "painful and horrible, etc...) I had both naturally.

[Marisa]

Way to go, Anna! I did too. I knew from the start that if millions of women could do this before me, so could I. Hubby and I decided if I *needed* something I couldn't feel like I let myself down and it would be okay but I ended up doing it all on my own. The nurses at Kaiser couldn't believe it! HAHA that was the best part. They were like "oh, she'll be asking for something soon enough."

[Mom of 2]

I had both of mine naturally too. Missed the drugs with the first one too! I would only do a C section if there was medical need to. Being cut open and all of that- no thank you.

Kate
Mom to Patty and Tyler

[daisydoc]

The nurses at Kaiser couldn't believe it! HAHA that was the best part. They were like "oh, she'll be asking for something soon enough."

I had the same thing with Jazper at Memorial. They were going through their "questions" and came to the one "what's your pain scale? when do you want drugs?" I replied that I didn't want any drugs AT ALL!!! So she gave me this look and said "um, okay! so you would say you want your pain to be a 10 before you get drugs?" I again replied I do not want drugs AT ALL! she got so pissed at me!

[LMS]

"I would like my pain to be a 38 before i have drugs, thank you"

[daisydoc]

exactly!

[jellybeanmichelle]

Did Britney have a C/S with her 1st kid?
I had a C/S. No nasty scar here! I could wear a bikini if I wanted to. :woohoo The nasty scar is if they cut you from belly button down to hair line. You would have to have a C/S with the next kid after that one.
I have the option to do C/S or vaginal birth with the next kid. I think I just might go with another C/S cause I don't want to run the risk of tearing my scar and then have to go into surgery anyway. But then again, after the experience I had with the epidural, I don't want anyone touching my back again! So much to think about! :nut
I have plenty of stretch marks too! I miss my flat tummy. :frown I did everything possible to keep them from coming, but they came anyway.
I was going to do vaginal, but she didn't want to come out! Stuck at 8cm, and water broken for over 24 hours.

[KaisaG]

My water broke at 36 weeks- I was stuck ay 6cm for 7 hours. I would definitely say my labor was painful... but worth every moment of it. I'd never elect for a c/s... it's really special to be able to "birth" your baby if you can.

[LMS]

I think, no matter what kind of c-sec you have, there is the option to VBAC. it's just a matter of finding a doctor who supports the procedure and is willing to do it (aka: is insured enough to do it)

[Lynette]

I wouldn't be so worried about a scar but the recovery! Ugh, abdominal surgery and a new baby?! Ouch! I was in labor for 20hours with Alaina (9lbs) and strolled out of the hospital 12 hours later feeling great at 30yo.

[Lynette]

Jackie: I am not sure, I know a lady who had the classic incision (up and down) when they took her premie baby (who later died, another lovely Kaiser story I forgot! They went in to close a hole in his heart and accidently clamped the main artery to the lower half of his body and then didn't check his oxygen levels so it went undetected for 24 hours) and she was told if the incision was horizontal she could have a VBAC but with this one the rishk was too high of rupture. I *think* it has to do with the way the uterus contracts during labor? She later had a 2nd healthy baby via C-section.

[LMS]

yeah. I just had a session with a new mom who couldn't even sit normally 6 wks after baby was born (i guess she had a rough vaginal delivery), which was a shocker to me. The morning after I had brendan I got up, took a shower, did my hair and makeup, went home that afternoon feeling fine as can be. Actually, that evening i went shopping for a new shirt to wear to the rascal flatts concert I went to when Brendan was 4 days old :bag LOL
But then again, I didn't have a normal labor and it's only a matter of time until it comes back and kicks me in the butt with one hell of a labor on another kid. LOL

[LMS]

lynette: I'm not sure, but I know a woman who had her first as an emergency c-section. She was told time and time again that she could never have another vaginal delivery so she purposely searched for a midwife who would support vbac before ever getting pregnant. She finally found one and have a wildly successful home-birth vbac. And she was told for SO long that it "wasn't medically possible".
I think a lot of times doctors like to say something "isn't possible" b/c you assume what they say is right, and they are hoping that you'll just blindly listen and shut your mouth. Lordk nows vbacs can't look good to a DR. Higher risk so their insruance is a problem, not to mention Vbirths are much lower $$ for them than c-sects are

[Lynette]

Jackie: You are so right, doctors are so used to saying no and lots of us just go with it...

[KaisaG]

I have cousin is going to try for a VBAC. She's due in December. She had to get a new doctor bacause her normal doc wouldn't do a VBAC. Also I know that around here, Memorial is the only hospital that you can deliver at if you plan for one.

[jellybeanmichelle]

My water broke at 36 weeks- I was stuck ay 6cm for 7 hours. I would definitely say my labor was painful... but worth every moment of it. I'd never elect for a c/s... it's really special to be able to "birth" your baby if you can.

I think it's also special to deliver by C/S. Either way you're giving birth to your own child that you will love and charish. :diaper

[LMS]

I think it's also special to deliver by C/S. Either way you're giving birth to your own child that you will love and charish. :diaper

ITA. I think there are lots of different ways to enjoy your baby.
A lot of people say that vagina birth and breastfeeding are fabulous ways to bond with your child, but i tend to think that giving birth in ANY way, and ANY feeding times are fabulous bonding opportunities :thumb

[KaisaG]

Michelle-- I'm not saying that having a C/S isn't it's own wonderful experience... My mother had all 4 of us that way. And you are right, which ever way you deliver is it's own, wonderful experience in itself. My cousin though, the one that I mentioned, was very sensitive to the pain meds she had gotten and was so out of it for two days that she couldn't even really hold her baby. I know that isn't the case for everyone...

[kariclose]

Imagine being a doula, pro natural, had first baby au natural, talking about being present and experiencing this whole amazing event to it's fullest, and then being told you have to have a c/s with your second. I cried for a month. I even had trouble saying that my second was "born" for a while. It felt like he was removed.
Still, I am so glad to have him, and a c/s was his only option. I am glad I can now help my clients through the experience.
VBAC's are 100% dependant on your personal c/s experience. It has to do with the Dr., the technique, the uterine tone, etc...
I think the fact that Britney had two c-sections, just because she was too afraid of labor and delivery says a lot about the climate of birth in this country. Let's take it back ladies! Let's not fear it. Even if you want the drugs, or the surgery or whatever, go confidently, go educated and own it.

[LMS]

go confidently, go educated and own it.

:thumb:clap

[becky]

I'm all for having a baby naturally but will be first to admit that i'm terrified of the pain. I am hoping that having a Doula this time around will change that for me and i can have this baby without drugs.

[Lindsay]

I think the fact that Britney had two c-sections, just because she was too afraid of labor and delivery says a lot about the climate of birth in this country. Let's take it back ladies! Let's not fear it. Even if you want the drugs, or the surgery or whatever, go confidently, go educated and own it.

:clap Amen, man, AMEN! That is so true (and sad) about our society today. I was TERRIFIED for my first labor, not at all interested in natural birth but I did want to birth vaginally. I ended up being sorry that I wasn't more educated because I realize now that when they broke my water at only 1.5 cm they locked her head into a posterior position which made for a long, hard, painful labor. Even with the meds, I was miserable. Also the epidural gave me a fever and subsequently gave my baby a fever which led to a NICU stay and forced supplementation, on and on. If I weren't so comitted to breastfeeding she'd have been a formula baby for sure.

For my second birth I REALLY just wanted to have a nice birth with no fear and no pain. I was induced after being a week late becuase I was already 3 cm, and about to go insane. No, I don't mean that figurativly --I was actually to the point where I was having trouble functioning/taking care of Jane. Let's just say that hormones make me a little nutty sometimes. The end of pregnancy = mean mommy. Anyway.

I read Spirtual Midwifery and Hypnobirthing but ended up deciding to have the drugs since I was getting induced and I just, didn't want a pitocin labor sans pain meds. I was edcuated and did evaluate the risk --I know that 50 percent of inductions fail, higher likelyhood of C/S, ect. For me it was a matter of choosing the risk versus the benefit (a sane mother who was prepared emotionally and physically to have a new baby).

I really wish everyone would evaulate their birth choices and really read all the statistics and know all the facts --not just the bs facts they write about in Pregnancy magazines or What to Expect When You're Expecting (aka what to expect when you expect a c section). It really saddens me how many people don't know the facts, and that women are so removed from birth they actually belive major surgery that increases the chances of death THREEFOLD is safer, easier, or better.

[KaisaG]

I did hypnobirthing too- I really liked it because since Baby E was my first, it TOTALLY put me at ease about what was going to be happening. I had 15.5hrs of painful labor (my water broke first) before I opted for drugs. I was stuck at 6cm for 7 long hours-- even though I had been walking laps, and then more laps around the hospital. I was so frustrated, and exhausted from being awake for 30+ hours I needed something to let me rest so that I could push effectively... besides that they had me on the max dose of pitocin... which made me feel crappy. I had already barfed on myself... I figured I might as well do something to make it a better experience for me. In the end... the epidural was on a low enough dose that I could totally feel pain, pressure, etc. just not as bad as I would have I not had the drugs. I look at my birth experience as having been very positive... and I totally want to do it all over again... in like 4 years or so :smile

[KaisaG]

Oh I heard on MTV last night that her new son's name is Sutton Pierce (I think- I was half asleep...)

[becky]

Both my pregnancies were induced but for different reasons. I didn't get my epidural for my first until the very end, about an hour before she was born so i felt all the pain leading up to the point of having to push. They literally gave me the epidural and then said its time to push. With my second i was also induced but had my epidural right away (just sooner than i was ready) so i didn't feel any of the contractions. I did feel the birth though becuase i wasn't completely numb.

The first time around though Labor was at least 15 hours long and the second time it was just 5. i wonder how long or short this time around is going to be.

[daisydoc]

I think the fact that Britney had two c-sections, just because she was too afraid of labor and delivery says a lot about the climate of birth in this country. Let's take it back ladies! Let's not fear it. Even if you want the drugs, or the surgery or whatever, go confidently, go educated and own it.

:clap :yeah :myopinion too that women need to take the initiative and educate themselves on ALL the options available and not just say "oh this is what I have to do b/c my doctor said so!" Doctors don't know all the answers and are only human and therefore can amke mistakes and choose not to tell you that there are other options out there. Believe it or not there are doc that'll do that.

[KaisaG]

I think that you have to have a doctor that you truly believes has your best interest in mind... I would have done whatever my doc said- not because I wasn't educated about everything (I've never researched anything so much in my life!) but because I believe she wanted what was best for me and my baby.

[Lynette]

With Salina, I firmly believe the doctor was going on vacation or something because he was hot to have her born on a specific day for some reason so she was induced at 40wks but I wouldn't have done that nowadays. It took me 18hours and pain meds after about 4 of those.

Alaina was also induced but I had gestational diabetes with her and they normally induce at 38 weeks but I held them off for 3 weeks until the risks outweighed the benefits in my and my midwife's opinion so was induced at 41wks 2 days. I had wanted to do it naturally but I was tethered to all the beeping machines, couldn't walk around, get in the shower and every 30 min they wanted me lying down to check the monitor so after only 4cm in 12hrs, I told my doula I wanted drugs. Alaina took 20 hours total.