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MamaLaura
01-31-2009, 12:36 PM
Grandma: Octuplets mom obsessed with having kids

(bolding some of the statements that stand out the most, to me)


LOS ANGELES – The woman who gave birth to octuplets this week conceived all 14 of her children through in vitro fertilization, is not married and has been obsessed with having children since she was a teenager, her mother said.

Angela Suleman told The Associated Press she was not supportive when her daughter, Nadya Suleman, decided to have more embryos implanted last year.

"It can't go on any longer," she said in a phone interview Friday. "She's got six children and no husband. I was brought up the traditional way. I firmly believe in marriage. But she didn't want to get married."

Nadya Suleman, 33, gave birth Monday in nearby Bellflower. She was expected to remain in the hospital for at least a few more days, and her newborns for at least a month.

A spokeswoman at Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center said the babies were doing well and seven were breathing unassisted.

While her daughter recovers, Angela Suleman is taking care of the other six children, ages 2 through 7, at the family home in Whittier, about 15 miles east of downtown Los Angeles.

She said she warned her daughter that when she gets home from the hospital, "I'm going to be gone."

Angela Suleman said her daughter always had trouble conceiving and underwent in vitro fertilization treatments because her fallopian tubes are "plugged up."

There were frozen embryos left over after her previous pregnancies and her daughter didn't want them destroyed, so she decided to have more children.

Her mother and doctors have said the woman was told she had the option to abort some of the embryos and, later, the fetuses. She refused.

Her mother said she does not believe her daughter will have any more children.

"She doesn't have any more (frozen embryos), so it's over now," she said. "It has to be."

Nadya Suleman wanted to have children since she was a teenager, "but luckily she couldn't," her mother said.

"Instead of becoming a kindergarten teacher or something, she started having them, but not the normal way," he mother said.

Her daughter's obsession with children caused Angela Suleman considerable stress, so she sought help from a psychologist, who told her to order her daughter out of the house.

"Maybe she wouldn't have had so many kids then, but she is a grown woman," Angela Suleman said. "I feel responsible and I didn't want to throw her out."

Yolanda Garcia, 49, of Whittier, said she helped care for Nadya Suleman's autistic son three years ago.

"From what I could tell back then, she was pretty happy with herself, saying she liked having kids and she wanted 12 kids in all," Garcia told the Long Beach Press-Telegram.

"She told me that all of her kids were through in vitro, and I said 'Gosh, how can you afford that and go to school at the same time?"' she added. "And she said it's because she got paid for it."

Garcia said she did not ask for details.

Nadya Suleman holds a 2006 degree in child and adolescent development from California State University, Fullerton, and as late as last spring she was studying for a master's degree in counseling, college spokeswoman Paula Selleck told the Press-Telegram.

Her fertility doctor has not been identified. Her mother told the Los Angeles Times all the children came from the same sperm donor but she declined to identify him.

Birth certificates reviewed by The Associated Press identify a David Solomon as the father for the four oldest children. Certificates for the other children were not immediately available.

The news that the octuplets' mother already had six children sparked an ethical debate. Some medical experts were disturbed to hear that she was offered fertility treatment, and troubled by the possibility that she was implanted with so many embryos.

Others worried that she would be overwhelmed trying to raise so many children and would end up relying on public support.

The eight babies — six boys and two girls — were delivered by Cesarean section weighing between 1 pound, 8 ounces and 3 pounds, 4 ounces. Forty-six physicians and staff assisted in the deliveries.


Article (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090131/ap_on_re_us/octuplets)

TaivensMama
01-31-2009, 01:10 PM
that was a lot of info to digest...sucks she has to have everyone judge her life...I mean idiots have babies everyday and go unnoticed by the public eye...too bad she can't do what she wants without having her name in the paper and her mother talk down about her to everyone...sounds to me like she might be trying to fill a void...her mother doesn't come off to me as the sweetest person spilling all this woman's business to the press....

Lynette
01-31-2009, 05:22 PM
that was a lot of info to digest...sucks she has to have everyone judge her life...I mean idiots have babies everyday and go unnoticed by the public eye...too bad she can't do what she wants without having her name in the paper and her mother talk down about her to everyone...sounds to me like she might be trying to fill a void...her mother doesn't come off to me as the sweetest person spilling all this woman's business to the press....


:yeah that on all accounts. Especially since the lady wanted to remain anonymous and her mom is blabbing to the press.

surmick
01-31-2009, 05:36 PM
Yeah, I really am more annoyed at her mom than her. If she wants to feel that way, fine, but why blab it all over the news.

Kellie_MO5
01-31-2009, 06:17 PM
that was a lot of info to digest...sucks she has to have everyone judge her life...I mean idiots have babies everyday and go unnoticed by the public eye...too bad she can't do what she wants without having her name in the paper and her mother talk down about her to everyone...sounds to me like she might be trying to fill a void...her mother doesn't come off to me as the sweetest person spilling all this woman's business to the press....
:yeah

lornabrown
01-31-2009, 10:28 PM
With a mom like that one can guess the void she is trying to fill.

On the other hand the mom/grandma might have been normal enough and is just completely frustrated with her daughter now.

weg'smom
02-01-2009, 01:14 AM
Yeah, I really am more annoyed at her mom than her. If she wants to feel that way, fine, but why blab it all over the news.

:yeah Her blabbing will only hurt her grandchildren in the long run. :(

becky
02-01-2009, 09:54 PM
oh wow i didn't know she was in whittier. that is where I am from. My friend just told me that she lives not to far from my parents. I can't imagine all the media attention that is going on down there right now