John and Kate + 8

[Luckylove]

Anyone watching tonight? I saw a preview of her crying by herself on the couch. :(

[Theresa]

nope. i think it's all a sham for ratings. they will go to counseling to "work" on their relationship and things will be all sweet again. i'm not a fan. :giggle

[barb]

I think I'm going to watch it tonight.... There's nothing else on TV....

[Brookepanda]

no, I'm so not a fan of that show :dunno

[jellybeanmichelle]

I DVR'd it so I could FF thru parts. :)

[lornabrown]

I'm watching it. It's commercials right now. She made a big deal about having to do the kids party by herself. Umm my dh wouldn't ever think of helping me stuff the pinatas, go shopping, etc. plus she had 4 people setting things up. That was frustrating.
It's definitely awkward seeing the 2 of them near each other.

[surmick]

Yeah, what husband does help with birthday stuff?

Ok, besides mine who said he wanted to do everything for Amelia's second birthday. It has been hard but I am letting him do it. Pictures to follow. :giggle

[tggrr2]

I will have to watch it on demand if it's on there. I forgot to tape it.

[lornabrown]

Usually you can get in on On Demand 24 hours after the original viewing. I'm sure TLC will replay it this week too. Seems like they are separated and it's all been going on for 6 months.

[jellybeanmichelle]

It looks like it will repeat on TLC on Monday June 1st.
Best to check listings.
If not, I DVR'd it, you can come watch it.

[Christyn95]

I watched it tonight, and my DH (who hates the show...b/c of the loud kids and Kate being so rude/mean) actually sat with me and watched the episode. During the birthday party scene, he looked over at me and asked,
"Doesn't it feel like there is this big black cloud over the episode, knowing that they are having 'problems'??" The poor kids who turned 5, will look back at that episode and see their parents talking about splitting, and their 5th birthday party all in the same show. It was also hard to watch the parents at the party because they barely said 2 words to each other and they were right next to each other. :( So sad!

[stephscrazy05]

we flipped back and forth from that to DH's show. hes not a fan (like most dads lol) but he did say he didnt like kate. that she was to demanding and to uptight. i kept watching the background and you can see some of the looks jon shoots her... all i could was train wreck waiting to happen... but ill still keep watching :)

[Michelle28]

I watched it although I've never really followed the show. They showed the end of the 4th season right before the new one premired and it seemed like they were having a conflict on doing season 5. Jon was complaining about not being able to go out of the house, but Kate kept saying it was their "job" now. It is a business for them and without the show they would not have that huge house or all the fun trips... I feel bad for the kids... :(

[My3sonsplus1]

Jon was complaining about not being able to go out of the house, but Kate kept saying it was their "job" now. It is a business for them and without the show they would not have that huge house or all the fun trips...

Well it is biz for her. It sounds like he wants out. I mean living under that spotlight cannot be mentally healthy. I don't watch the show but saw a episode on you tube a few weeks back they were talking about when she just had the twins they had 'never even HEARD of 'handme downs' (scoff) and only wore name brands' and now they some times wore hmd shoes. She seems way materialistic from what I have seen. They may do fine without the show but not it her eyes because that would require not having all the glitz and glam in life. But really what good is Disney World and name brand clothes and high end appliances if you are divorced because you essentially 'made a deal with the devil' to get them.

[MamaLaura]

I think solely blaming the show for a split would be stupid. It'd be like saying that the only reason Brian cheated on me was because of the stress of Lucas being in the hospital. No. If you have issues or if someone is going to cheat, you're going to split/they're going to do it eventually anyway. A stressful situation (like a show, or child in the hospital) may make it happen sooner than it would have on its own, but it certainly isn't the reason for it happening. Doesn't look like the Duggars have any problems and they have a show.

Without being part of their family, I can say that I believe both parents should have a say in whether or not to continue the show (and they should hear the input of the twins now that they're old enough to understand) however I do see where Kate would have a point. If they're both not working like someone here once mentioned, that show is their livelihood now. They have a huge house to pay for, and probably some debt to pay off. And if they've committed at all (in contract) they need to follow through.

[My3sonsplus1]

I am not blaming the show for whatever issues they have but being in the spotlight and being judged constantly and in the public eye and having your every snit recorded and potentially aired is not going to do anything to aid in reconsiliation IMO.

I also believe that in a disagreement on whether or not to do something drastic and one person disagrees you should do 'nothing' until a decision can be made. One might argue "nothing" means nothing changes, while another nothing means we won't be doing this anymore until we can agree that we both want it. I don't think think that type of life should be forced upon anyone esp. if they are old enough to say I am done whether that be the twins or dad, unless they of course have a contractual obligation to fulfill, and then they can be done... I don't even know that the kids know a difference between being on TV and not though, hasn't that been their lives for the last 4 plus years? Mom and dad have been having public snits for as long as they can remember. I am not sure they know that things might be different not in the public eye. On a 1/1000000000th level I know I can be a totally different parent "in public" than in private some times when I feel like people are judging me and my action or inaction on any given scenerio.

[Sara]

It was tough to watch. It looks like Jon has totally checked out, if you watch the first interview he looks like crud, like he just didnt care enough to get ready for the camera. I think if they didn't do the show, they would still be in a situation like this, but if they didn't he would have continued to work and maybe would have his own identity separate from house husband. Still, he may have checked out anyway because of the stress of having no money, KWIM? You don't know what would have happened, having 2 kids is tough, but having 8 would be difficult for anyone to handle. The birthday party was sad, especially when one of the kids said, 'Daddy, I don't want you to leave anymore'.

[CrystalD]

I watched the show and really don't know what to believe since the show is more of a business than a couple show documentary on their lives. They have entered into the reality t.v. realm.

[Michelle28]

I watched the show and really don't know what to believe since the show is more of a business than a couple show documentary on their lives. They have entered into the reality t.v. realm.

:yeah

It is really hard to know what to believe??

[Michelle28]

But really what good is Disney World and name brand clothes and high end appliances if you are divorced because you essentially 'made a deal with the devil' to get them.

I totally agree, and it sounds like that is where the conflict started...

[lovesthebaby]

It was tough to watch. It looks like Jon has totally checked out, if you watch the first interview he looks like crud, like he just didnt care enough to get ready for the camera. I think if they didn't do the show, they would still be in a situation like this, but if they didn't he would have continued to work and maybe would have his own identity separate from house husband. Still, he may have checked out anyway because of the stress of having no money, KWIM? You don't know what would have happened, having 2 kids is tough, but having 8 would be difficult for anyone to handle. The birthday party was sad, especially when one of the kids said, 'Daddy, I don't want you to leave anymore'.

I agree with Sara. I thought it was really sad and it did seem like Jon was DONE. I feel bad for Kate. I never really liked how she treated him, but he allowed it and they have 8 kids together! I think it would wear on any couple with or without a reality show to deal with the day to day dealings of having eight children. I feel sad for the kids and for them, they look so uncomfortable sitting next to each other.

[ktjo17]

It was tough to watch. It looks like Jon has totally checked out, if you watch the first interview he looks like crud, like he just didnt care enough to get ready for the camera. I think if they didn't do the show, they would still be in a situation like this, but if they didn't he would have continued to work and maybe would have his own identity separate from house husband. Still, he may have checked out anyway because of the stress of having no money, KWIM? You don't know what would have happened, having 2 kids is tough, but having 8 would be difficult for anyone to handle. The birthday party was sad, especially when one of the kids said, 'Daddy, I don't want you to leave anymore'.

:yeah It was sad to watch.

[Christyn95]

The birthday party was sad, especially when one of the kids said, 'Daddy, I don't want you to leave anymore'.

I don't remember seeing that - though the volume was low and DH and Morgan were talking over the show (Grrr!). That is so sad that one of the kids said that, was it a twin, or one of the sextuplets? I didn't realize he wasn't living with them full time.

[jellybeanmichelle]

I don't remember seeing that - though the volume was low and DH and Morgan were talking over the show (Grrr!). That is so sad that one of the kids said that, was it a twin, or one of the sextuplets? I didn't realize he wasn't living with them full time.

It was one of the boy sextuplets. I think because he went away for the weekend before the party, the boy didn't want his daddy to leave again. :dunno

[ktjo17]

I don't remember seeing that - though the volume was low and DH and Morgan were talking over the show (Grrr!). That is so sad that one of the kids said that, was it a twin, or one of the sextuplets? I didn't realize he wasn't living with them full time.

I thought it was one of the girl sextuplets...but either way he said something like he has to work?!? I thought he wasn't working and that was part of the problem...

[CrystalD]

I thought it was one of the girl sextuplets...but either way he said something like he has to work?!? I thought he wasn't working and that was part of the problem...

Yeah it was one of the girls. Maybe that is what they tell the kids since they either haven't hashed everything out or not ready to tell the children about the divorce/separation?

[Kellie_MO5]

Is there a place to watch this online?

[lornabrown]

Kellie - you could probably find it through the TLC site. Otherwise Yahoo has been giving them lots of coverage.

The biggest thing I noticed was the separate interviews. They are usually squished together on that interview couch. For this episode they interviewed them mainly separate, then the one short time they were together there was a huge space between them.

They could probably stop doing the reality show and still make a decent life off book sales, speaking engagements, etc. They just bought a new house and probably need to the gig for a while. Although, I heard they make like $50k per episode. Can anyone confirm??

[CrystalD]

Is there a place to watch this online?

I *think* you can watch it on TLC?

[ktjo17]

I heard $50k too, but I don't know if it's true either. But they have to be making a lot to buy the house they did...I just hope they can work out their problems...it would be nice for the kids.

[CrystalD]

Kellie - you could probably find it through the TLC site. Otherwise Yahoo has been giving them lots of coverage.

The biggest thing I noticed was the separate interviews. They are usually squished together on that interview couch. For this episode they interviewed them mainly separate, then the one short time they were together there was a huge space between them.

They could probably stop doing the reality show and still make a decent life off book sales, speaking engagements, etc. They just bought a new house and probably need to the gig for a while. Although, I heard they make like $50k per episode. Can anyone confirm??

I heard they make $75K per episode, plus money from autographs, $3K/hr. for speaking engagements, etc... Don't know if the figures are accurate?

[CrystalD]

I don't know where these websites got their figures but this is what I found:


http://sixgosselins.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-much-do-jon-and-kate-gosselin-make.html

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_do_Jon_and_Kate_make_for_their_reality_sh ow

[Sara]

According to here (http://www.philly.com/inquirer/magazine/20090526__Jon___Kate_Plus_8___adding_up_to_disaste r.html) it is $25k-$75k/episode.

Yeah it was one of the girls who said it and when he said, daddy had to work, he gave the camera a look that basically said, that is all I can come up with for being gone. They said earlier he left for the weekend to 'get away', so I am assuming this is right after the photo thing since the birthday was in mid May. They were definitely distant and when they asked what their fate was, Kate said, I am here, and Jon said, I am here for the kids.

[PixiesPlayhouse]

I just notice that it is coming on at 5pm tonight......on dish.....so maybe 8 if you have cable?

[jellybeanmichelle]

Yeah it was one of the girls.

Opps, guess I have to watch it again. :)

[CrystalD]

Opps, guess I have to watch it again. :)

;)

[Colleen&Kail]

i watched it, sounds like their over to me no one mentioned anything about counseling...and that fact that they both kept saying "we in it or the kids" is kind of like a slap in the face to each other.

[gypsybootsie]

I jus get so angry and sad for the kids. They are in the middle and are the ones who are going to lose the most. All of it in the public eye. To be honest I am now done watching it.

[erin anne]

I think one of the saddest part was when his daughter said "I don't want you to go away anymore daddy" :(

The show has really seemed to change Kate dramatically in all regards.

[Sara]

I have a little info from the inside :D

So, I guess the time when Jon was away was because he went to go help his mom who broke her leg. Kate forbid him from going (saying if you go, don't come back), but he still went. She has estranged herself from all family and Jon has no relationship with his family at all because of her. His family gets to see the twins one weekend a month and for 2 weeks over the summer, but they don't get to see the little ones at all. She doesn't know whether or not he cheated, but Kate is using the allegations to distance herself from him.

So this is coming from his family who don't like Kate at all, so take it with a grain of resentment.

[Christyn95]

I have a little info from the inside :D

Who do you know on the "inside"?? :confused Just curious! :)

[marinamn]

I saw on Entertainment Tonight that they make $75K/episode, they also estimated that so far they've made $10M.
I can't stand Kate's behavior but John is also to blame because he has allowed her to treat him like that fro so long, too bad the kids are witnessing this behavior, it seems the older twins are copying some if it, they do seem bossy sometimes with the youngsters.

[Sara]

Who do you know on the "inside"?? :confused Just curious! :)

I am part of a birth club and one of my friends on there's father is business partners with Jon's father.

[weg'smom]

I didn't start watching the show until last season. That said, I would not be able to handle being married to Jon. He is sooo passive and always waits to be directed. That would drive me BATS. Anyway, what I find so interesting about the public "outrage" over JK+8 is that for some reason the reality part of the show makes people mad. It's supposed to be a real look into their family and that's what it is for better or worse. I don't think there would be this kind of public irritation if it was scripted.